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sambistapt
Senior Member
Rio de Janeiro
Brazilian Portuguese
- Jul 23, 2009
- #1
Hello amigos!
Inbound flights= Domestic flights whereas Outbound flights= International ones? My clue is correct?
Thanks,
Sam
Pedro y La Torre
Senior Member
Greater Paris, France
English - (Dublin) Ireland
- Jul 23, 2009
- #2
Inbound flights are flights arriving at the airport, outbound flights are those which are leaving.
cuchuflete
Senior Member
Maine, EEUU
EEUU-inglés
- Jul 23, 2009
- #3
Agreeing with Pedro, and with a slightly different perspective: Inbound trains, buses, flights are coming to the speaker's location, while the outbound ones are leaving from that location. Of course if you are not at the airport or train station, Pedro's definitions are perfect.
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Pilusanto
Member
Washington-USA
Espanol-Usa
- Jan 13, 2010
- #4
cuchuflete said:
Agreeing with Pedro, and with a slightly different perspective: Inbound trains, buses, flights are coming to the speaker's location, while the outbound ones are leaving from that location. Of course if you are not at the airport or train station, Pedro's definitions are perfect.
What do you mean by speaker's location?
Thanks
se16teddy
Senior Member
London but from Yorkshire
English - England
- Jan 13, 2010
- #5
Pilusanto said:
What do you mean by speaker's location?
Thanks
Where the speaker (of the words) is.
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Pilusanto
Member
Washington-USA
Espanol-Usa
- Jan 13, 2010
- #6
I saw on tv
bound AA flight gets off a minute after ...
se16teddy said:
Where the speaker (of the words) is.
Okay. Thanks
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Carlito Brigante
New Member
Riga, Latvia
Latvian
- Jan 13, 2010
- #7
Edit: se16teddy answered first.
Andygc
Senior Member
Devon
British English
- Jan 13, 2010
- #8
I do not understand Cuchuflete's input. It is not the speaker's location that matters, it is the location to or from which the flight is going. I can be in Dorking, but the flight going over my head is either an inbound or an outbound flight to or from Heathrow. It is not described relative to Dorking.
se16teddy
Senior Member
London but from Yorkshire
English - England
- Jan 13, 2010
- #9
Andygc said:
I do not understand Cuchuflete's input. It is not the speaker's location that matters, it is the location to or from which the flight is going. I can be in Dorking, but the flight going over my head is either an inbound or an outbound flight to or from Heathrow. It is not described relative to Dorking.
If I am in Dorking and see a plane descending towards Heathrow, for me it is an inbound flight. If I am in Dorking and see a plane gaining altitude having departed from Heathrow, for me it is an outbound flight.
se16teddy
Senior Member
London but from Yorkshire
English - England
- Jan 13, 2010
- #10
sambistapt said:
Inbound flights= Domestic flights whereas Outbound flights= International ones?
No, if something is inbound it is travelling inwards, and if it is outbound it is travelling outwards.
Similarly, on the London Underground, the eastbound platform is for trains travelling towards the east, and the westbound platform is for trains travelling towards the west.
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Andygc
Senior Member
Devon
British English
- Jan 13, 2010
- #11
se16teddy said:
If I am in Dorking and see a plane descending towards Heathrow, for me it is an inbound flight. If I am in Dorking and see a plane gaining altitude having departed from Heathrow, for me it is an outbound flight.
Yes, but it is its relationship to the airport that decides if it is inbound or outbound.
You could be mistaken in what you are seeing - it could be an inbound flight that has overshot the runway and is rejoining the stack - it would still be an inbound flight even though you have the illusion that it is departing.
cuchuflete
Senior Member
Maine, EEUU
EEUU-inglés
- Jan 13, 2010
- #12
A flight travels from Heathrow to Portland, Maine, U.S.A.
From the perspective of a person at Heathrow it is an outbound flight.
That same aircraft, from the perspective of someone waiting at the Portland Jetport to meet a passenger on that flight, is an inbound flight.
To an air traffic controller, communicating with the pilot from Newfoundland, Canada,
the flight may be identified by, in addition to the airline name and flight number, terms such as "outbound from LHR" or "inbound to PWM". Which term is used will depend on the proximity of the aircraft to its airport of departure or arrival.
Andygc
Senior Member
Devon
British English
- Jan 14, 2010
- #13
Yes, I think that was my point. The location of the person using the phrase is irrelevant to its use or meaning, it is the relationship between the aircraft and its point of departure or its destination that matters. I felt that your adding in the speaker's location as a factor in the meaning was a potential source of confusion.
Putting that debate aside, at least the original question has been answered.
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jlan
Senior Member
Eng/Fra/Deu
- Jul 27, 2016
- #14
I think the most useful way to consider this, for someone who has booked a return flight from A to B (and back), is that the first flight, going from A to B, is the outbound, and the flight returning from B to A is the inbound (which leaves out the confusing bit about a speaker's location; you could be in Paris and book a return flight from Sidney to Hong Kong, and the fact you are in Paris makes absolutely no difference as to which of these two flights -- from Sidney to Hong Kong, or back -- are inbound and outbound; the first is out- the second inbound).
In other words, in a round-trip, outbound is the journey there and inbound the return.
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Andygc
Senior Member
Devon
British English
- Jul 27, 2016
- #15
Only for the person taking the flight. For the relatives meeting the traveller in Hong Kong the flight from Sydney is inbound and the flight going back to Sydney is outbound.
JulianStuart
Senior Member
Sonoma County CA
English (UK then US)
- Jul 27, 2016
- #16
jlan said:
I think the most useful way to consider this, for someone who has booked a return flight from A to B (and back), is that the first flight, going from A to B, is the outbound, and the flight returning from B to A is the inbound (which leaves out the confusing bit about a speakers location; you could be in Paris and book a return flight from Sidney to Hong Kong, and the fact you are in Paris makes absolutely no difference as to which of these two flights -- from Sidney to Hong Kong, or back -- are inbound and outbound; the first is out- the second inbound).
In other words, in a round-trip, outbound is the journey there and inbound the return.
I would say that's a specialized subset of usage, restricted to return tickets and round trips.
A simple way to look at this more generally might be- inbound= on the way to land (at the previously mentioned or implied airport) outbound= about to or just took off. Context should establish the identity/location of the airport
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jlan
Senior Member
Eng/Fra/Deu
- Jul 27, 2016
- #17
Andygc said:
Only for the person taking the flight. ...
indeed...
jlan said:
...for someone who has booked a return flight from A to B (and back)...
Andygc said:
... For the relatives meeting the traveller in Hong Kong the flight from Sydney is inbound and the flight going back to Sydney is outbound.
No. When I'm picking up a relative at the airport, I'm looking for arrivals. And when I'm dropping them off for their return flight, I'm looking for departures. I have never seen an airport in the world display these as "inbound" and "outbound" flights.
JulianStuart said:
I would say that's a specialized subset of usage, restricted to return tickets and round trips. ...
Right. And that's where you usually encounter this vocabulary (on your flight booking, or when booking a flight). Unless maybe you're working in air traffic control...
RM1(SS)
Senior Member
Connecticut
English - US (Midwest)
- Jul 28, 2016
- #18
jlan said:
No. When I'm picking up a relative at the airport, I'm looking for arrivals. And when I'm dropping them off for their return flight, I'm looking for departures. I have never seen an airport in the world display these as "inbound" and "outbound" flights.
And as has been said before, arrivals are inbound flights and departures are outbound flights.
SwissPete
Senior Member
94044 USA
Français (CH), AE (California)
- Jul 28, 2016
- #19
A flight is outbound as it leaves, and inbound as it arrives.
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jlan
Senior Member
Eng/Fra/Deu
- Jul 28, 2016
- #20
SwissPete said:
A flight is outbound as it leaves, and inbound as it arrives.
Yes, but every flight both leaves somewhere and arrives somewhere (hopefully), so this is not particularly helpful a definition for someone who wants to know which one is their inbound and which one is their outbound flight on a round trip (both will be both, indeed, for different people at different locations, but that again is not useful for the person trying to distinguish).
As I put it above, for someone making a return/round trip (which is the situation in which, I believe, the confusion or query is most likely to arise), the outbound is the journey from the origin to the destination and the inbound is the journey back.
And there is no logical reason why it should be so, and not the other way round, which is why it is confusing (as with 12 a.m. and p.m. to denote noon or midnight). It is by convention only that in a round trip the origin is taken as vantage point to define which flight is in- and outbound. If the convention had taken the perspective of the destination (i.e. where the round trip goes to and returns from), it would be the other way round. (On a return/round trip from London to Dublin, the flight from London to Dublin is both going out of London and in to Dublin, and the return is going out of Dublin and in to London, so it is not clear which one should be considered in- and which outbound, if one does not know the convention. I personally would be inclined to consider the destination -- where it is I am taking a trip to -- as more important, and hence the flight there as inbound, and the flight back as outbound, but that's not how it works in common usage -- it's the other way round).
Derekakis
New Member
Paris, France
English - California
- May 15, 2018
- #21
What a confusing thread!
Therefore, I merely want to offer my support for jlan's explanations. In the context of a round-trip ticket, the outbound flight is the one from your starting point to your destination, the inbound flight is the flight back from your destination to your original starting point. Thus, one can also speak of outbound travel, an outbound ticket, the outbound train, etc., always referring to the first leg of a round-trip voyage. <-----Non-English phrases removed by moderator (Florentia52)----->
Andygc
Senior Member
Devon
British English
- May 15, 2018
- #22
And as several people have said, starting with post 2, both inbound and outbound are relative to a location. A return ticket is not the only context where the words "inbound" and "outbound" are used. It is just one case where the location being considered is usually the origin of the journey.
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